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East Vice, West Vice, and the central island

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headfonez    0

the following is a game mode idea for mta. This is an excerpt from a chat that I've had with several developers as well as members of the MTA Community (namely Wojjie, Iggy248, Marcel, and myself)

* Now talking in #ideas

* Marcel has joined #ideas

* Iggy248 has joined #ideas

wha, wojj?

m00

im all a tingle

he must have never left the room

anyway

* Anz|away has joined #ideas

then just tell us :P

well lets hear it

well it goes a little like this

well

you know how there are 3 islands...

indeed

yes

3 islands

3 flags

ok, these islands represent nations

each island has a flag

the objective of the game is to capture the flag of each island

interesting

now about the three islands.....

if you notice there is an island on the east, an island on the west, and a central island.

correct

the name of these islands are "East Vice" (the island to the east) and "West Vice" (the island to the west)

the central islands (Prawn Island and Starfish Island) both make up the "central islands" but their is no name for the "central islands" untill it is named

ill explain why later

ok

now

like i said before there is "East Vice" and "West Vice"

and the citizens of those nations are called "Eastians" (citizens of East Vice) and "Westians" (Citizens of West Vice)

on start up, you select which "nationallity" youre are

yeh

now

you have to capture both opposing flags in order to win

so say youre from East Vice, you have to capture the Westian and central islands' flags

yeh

now

heres where things go

"Chapter 2"

heh

Government

now

the thing is this

each nation has their own government.....except for the central islands

East and West Vice all have a "President", a "Secretary of Defense", and "Sherrif"

Is that sort of a handicap for the central island?

think of East and West Vice as contemporary countries

and the central island as a 3rd world country

the only form of leadership for the central island is a dictatorship....1 leader

How many players to a team?

well

you can have as many players on any team as you want

or you can just play by yourself

with 1 other person

it doesnt matter

because

the main objective is of course to "capture the other two flags"

ok

now

grab a drink?

thirsty hungry...

uh

if yah are den go do that

otherwise meh continue

ok

well, ill continue

lol

"Chapter 3" what the government does

now

as i said before, East and West vice has a President, a Sherrif, and a Secretary of Defense

The president has to 'order' over everyone in his country, the Sherrif has to govern the cops, and the Sec of Defense is over the active Military

these three positions are elected officials

yeh

and these elections occur after every game 24 hours, well which is of course 24 minutes

to vote for someone you'd type for example \vote 1 Iggy248

mmmkay

that would be voting iggy (you) for president

yeh

\vote 2 Marcel would be voting him for Sherrif, etc

ne way

there is another, simpler way to become president of course

that is to shoot the guy who's currently the prez

and collect his

lol

"presidental orb" that is left at his coordinates of death

once your the new pres, you have 24 game hourse until your next election (that is if you dong get assasinated first)

btw you can vote for yourself, but you cannot vote more than once

and

you mean once per position?

yeah

good catch

eligebale people for the presidency are civilians....(non military and cop personnel)

and eligle people for sec of state or sherrif include both military and cops for either positions

now

that takes care of elections

yeh

heres how it all works

sigh ..............

now

the President, Sec of State, and Sherrif can make ceartin laws

these laws are laws that are automatically enforced if their turned on

Cant he laws only be enforced apon there corrisponding troups?

yes they can. you can make a law for just military if youre the sec of defense or a law for just police if youre the sherrif

an example of a law is

for example, if the Sherrif wants the national speed limit to be 80km per hour... then anyone that drives faster than that is automatically punished

*alirght

if the penality is death (which is also determined by the leader who made the law) then they are automatically killed

now

before you get power tripping

...

here is the clench

the leaders can make any law they want

but

the punishment they deliver depends on how much money they have available

when i say money,

im not talking about the blue numbers at the top right

"Money" is a literal package located at a bank or a ceartin spot

right

each nation starts out with say 5 packages

the only people who can move the money are thieves and the president

thieves can steal it

like

walk up to it

but

*and

when they have it, they run around with it

and the goverment no longer has that "package" of money

k

no money = no power to punish or enforce ceartain laws

you see?

yeh

if you want to ban all Eastians, the westian president types \ban Eastians

well \ban Eastians punish 3

But it would take away money?

that would mean all Eastians that try to enter recieve punishment 3

which would likely be the death penalty

no

ok

it doesnt take the money away

it just uses that money for that particular law

remove the law, and you have your money back

so

of course

its all in how its distributed

because

the sherrif may need money for his laws

so you can click that off for a while and let the sherrif use it to enforce his stuff

it = the money you were using to enforce that law

yeh

got it?

ok

so theieves can steal the money

( you have to choose to be a thief)

or

the president can transfer his national money to another national bank

yeh

typing \money 3 West Vice

that would transfer 3 packs to West Vice in their bank

you know

so

bank security is important

couldnt you consider being able to drive the security van and have the money in there when you transfer banks?

well

Or wont the banks be actually visable

yeah

well

yes they will be visible

ok

(im thinkin about that idea you just said)

you mean

like a police officer or something transfers money?

ok

its considered

heh

yeh

ok

What is your job on the team? SCM coder?

gameplay programmer

yah

yes

uh

ok

uh

since

you listened thus far, im not gonna waste anymore of your time

lol

im just gonna type it out

and

let you read it

Sure you dont have anything else you wanna say :P

ok

"Chapter 11" The Game

yiant gotta respond

man

go surf some porn uh... no

dont do that

uh

get a drink ah sometin yah

"Chapter 11" The Game

Eastians and Westians have their own nations cars

there are Eastian Cars (lets say red) and Westian Cars (lets say green)

now

Do you plan to have all the cars they use one certain color?

more than likely yes

if the Eastian President has banned all Westians, the only way a Westian can enter the country w/out punishment is..

to drive a Eastian car in

ok I was wondering how they would

heh

and there are 'foriegn' cars in each nation

so

it shouldnt be a big problem

now

there is no Central islands cars

because they have no goverment

Do you plan to give the central islands some handicaps due to there small size?

if your nation bans you and the other nation does not grant you citizenship...

youre automaticaly sent to live in the central islands.

they have no handicapp

becuase

theoretically,

the central islands are poor (they start out with 1 money pkg)

and

they are the habitaion of people who are not accepted in either country

your considered to be liken unto an 'odd-ball' if you live in those central islands

k

or

you can just choose to be a strait up person from there at start up selection

now

they also dont have elections

they just have 1 president (dictator)

theyll probably have to sneak in other countries using the 'foriegn' cars

yeh

and

they have a few enforcable laws

one important one is the banning law, which would be cool because then if both islands are banned from the center,

theyll have to go around through heli or boat

yeh

because cause there's no central car

and

btw

helis, boats all have nationality also

so

same rules apply to them

you cant land in the country with out punishment if youre banned

are you planning this for mta, or another gta mod?

mta of course

the central island does not have a name

the dictator names it

uh

got to make a small business call

well really its big

ok

aaahhh [completed the call]

you still there (you refereing to anyone)

Yes

great

-----------Chapter uh 6 i guesssz -----

now

you know how to sneak in

you now how to steal

you know how tospend

but

do you know how to spy????

(my favorite part)

of the game

is

the National Spy

hur

there can be a total of 2 National Spies per nation

i just knocked my pc tower over

....im still here

haha

sorry

heh

lol

heh

uh

wel

anyway

now see the spy is the guy

who can see everything on radar

from money to the flags

yeh

to every body in the game

the spy

is also the only guy who can enter a country

and apear to be a native of that land

so

yeh

so peeps wont suspect

he can easily capture the flag

cause he can see it on screen

but

he starts out with only a pistol with low ammo

and

can

only ride

in cars, cannot drive

so him needs dem help

*he

so he needs the help of his 'team'

now

the president selects the spies

ok

\spy1 Marcel

he becomes a national spy

spy1 is different from spy2

because

if you kill spy2 he leaves his orb and you can beceome the national spy (anyone of that country)

but

spy1 doesnt leave an orb

ok

he remains spy untill forever or unless the pres reappoints

now

thats it for the spy

----Chapter 7, that other important dude

The president also

wait

k

the Secretary of Defense

him and 1 other person he appoints

can move the nations flag

like to a nother location

but

theieves can steal it

but

they dont see it [the flag] on radar

unless someone is walking with it

now

Can the flag be placed at ANY location or at say....6 differnt stations that are have already been selected by you (headfonez) at differnt points of the island?

yes

anywhere

the sec of defense can appoint 1 other person to be a flag mover, but he must be in the military

if im the Sec of Defense, typing " \cflag Iggy248 " would allow you to carry the flag

ok

and that flag mover DOES NOT leave an position orb

--------the FBI agent------

the FBI agent, which is appointed by the police does something simple

if he gets close or (button press near range)

he

places a camera on you, youre bugged

but

yeah

peeps of your island can now see where people are by spectating

well the certain person whos bugged

they can only spectate him

right?

yeah

Also, you can put cameras on the money and the flag

and the presidental orb, secretary of defense orb, and any other orb

cool idea

so

whoever is president you can see it by spectating if its bugged

whoever has the flag you can see it by spectating if its bugged

etc

but you have to get to it first

and

well

if you bug once, its bugged forever

so thats just for start up

but

for people to view it

you need money

say 1 or 2 packs

ok

you can have up to 3 FBI agents per country

uh

.....

1 more pos

ok

national drivers

anyone can be one

these are people who can handle any car

any time

so you can drive the prez around in his bullet proof limo

or

cool

drive the securi van for a high speed get away

yeh

bullet proof = a lot of armor

but destrucatble

yeh

hrm

with a confused look on my face, i do believe thats it

now

of course there are laws that i didnt explain

and punishments i didnt explain

but

oh 1 importnt tech thing

ok

when a new player joins or restarts game

all of the cars are synched according to where they are

data of the car locs is saved in the host, and their transfered to the new joiner

so

unlike how only the ones that are occupied are syched currently?

you cant join a game and start jacking cars that no one else saw

yeah

ok

what do you think

goood

looks like you spent alot of time thinking things over

correct?

yeahheh

so

but yeah

thanks

-----Note: some of the chat was modified for clairty of concept and grammar purposes-----

So what do you guys think? ITs basicaly a 3 team capture the flag with hyper elements of goverment control. Cops and Robbers have their haven here as they try and steal money from the national banks. Dont want to fit in? Be a stowaway on the central islands. Strategists and Masterminds can work their brains for developing strategies to capture the flag. You can also have national competitions like racing or stunting, or competitions between islands. Get voted into an office. Wanna be likeable?, "run" for President, and by that i mean Run to kill the dude whos carrying the Presidental Orb. This is combining many elemnts into one game, without sacrificing any of the MTA action we crave. Any comments or suggestions? Please Post!

thanks for reading

--Headfonez

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MAD_BOY    0

i think that would be fucking awesome :)

btw,

are you planning this for mta, or another gta mod?

you're officially an idiot now :P

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JonChappell    0

Wow - you've certainly done some balancing since I saw the idea last (or maybe it's just that you gave more details this time). It's great that all of this stuff will be possible in a future version of MTA (hopefully the next one *fingers crossed*).

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Iggy    0

Well my post magically disappeared so i'll repost it.

What is the point of having a thread for suggestions and telling everyone to post there suggestions there when there is a whole sub-forum for this matter. "Got any ideas for upcoming versions of MTA? Post them here!" - Eh? And this topic you point us to isn't even IN the suggestions forum, how do you expect someone looking for where to post the gametype suggestion to look in the "General MTA VC" Forum, wouldn't YOU go to the "Suggestions" Forum? Seriously, if anything at least move it to the suggestions forum.

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Si|ent    1

Because everyone has game mode ideas, relatively few people have other suggestions to make, and the main forum section is much more active therefore the thread got the attention it deserved in there, and was left there.

I would expect someone who was once a team member to know of the thread, I would also expect anyone, new or not, not to post an extremely long chat log. That's annoying enough in the quotewall thread let alone anywhere else.

Now please restrict your posts to the topic in question rather than 'having a go' at the way we run the forums at the slightest opportunity.

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JonChappell    0

Wasn't it in the game modes thread anyway? That's where I saw it.

And weren't you a developer a couple of days ago and now you're not? Does that mean it's pretty unlikely to ever be included in MTA?

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Ransom    5

Yes the posting of an entire log seems like lazyness... I mean if you're going to present a gamemode at least take the time to do it in a form some people will read people.

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Can't you into the other island without crossing the central islands?

By the southernmost bridge?

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Goldenpipes    0

thats pretty coll i have to admit....

sounds realyy hard to code..... so we'll see it in a few years then? :)

it sounds awesome though... kinda like ghost recon in a way... sorta.... yeh ghost recon and Command and conqure.,... lol

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