[KFC]KungFu Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Uno question, If I d/l some vehicle "skins" and replace the look of the vehicle than its not cheating right? I want to put some slick cars in there but I dont want to be a cheater. there is no telling if these things are synced or what effect they have on gameplay. They introduce extra variables into the question of bugs and at this time MTA doesn't support these mods either. One day they may. Plus the CRC check should catch those mods too Link to comment
orappa Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Also people who use mods tend to lag the server. I don't know if this happens with vehicle mods. Link to comment
Guardians Proper Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Also people who use mods tend to lag the server. I don't know if this happens with vehicle mods. ^ They also cause more crashes... Link to comment
Guest Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Why not just have the server initate the checking of MD5 Sums on client connect? Things liek the handling configuration file, as well as the client itself. Link to comment
orappa Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 I've always thought it did that anyway... Link to comment
b0b0 Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Whatever is done, I hope it is done quickly. This problem has gotten completely out of hand, and it should have been dealt with a long time ago. Link to comment
PSYKO Dragon Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Whatever is done, I hope it is done quickly. This problem has gotten completely out of hand, and it should have been dealt with a long time ago. I gave up on MTA for 5 months just because I kept running into cheaters(especialy the infamous $MrVercetti$) but then i got back into it when 0.3. Now i just hope that something was done to reduce the amount of cheating possible. Link to comment
OpiuM. Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 well by your signiture you should run into cheaters and greet them....not fight them and run away, id probably have taken your post seriously if your sig didnt indicate you may be a cheater yourself Link to comment
eAi Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Whatever is done, I hope it is done quickly. This problem has gotten completely out of hand, and it should have been dealt with a long time ago.You have to remember you're playing 0.3 beta, i'm sure you realise what a beta is, I just have to remind you, that anti-cheat isn't and shouldn't be #1 on our agenda, until we have a finished game, as making a fun game is more important than preventing people abusing it (no-one would play if it wasn't fun).eAi Link to comment
orappa Posted June 17, 2004 Share Posted June 17, 2004 Yep, I completely agree. I always download the latest patches for games, but 9 times out of 10 I don't notice a difference and wonder why I bothered. Other quotes by b0b0: Installed at MTA 0.1, uninstalled at MTA 0.3. The large amount of cheaters and the MTA Team's lack of effort to stop them prompted me to uninstall the game. I still check back here to see if things have improved. "there isn't enough room for memory addresses" This has gotten rediculous. Why is the MTA Team making so many excuses and saying that some of these suggestions which seem possible are not? MAC Address banning, better anti-cheat, is it really so much to ask? And if it is, shouldn't the MTA Team be prepared to deal with these suggestions in a positive way? Multi Theft Auto has gotten very popular way too fast, and I don't know if the MTA Team is prepared to deal with this. The concept of Multiplayer GTA was laughable prior to the release of the very first MTA version, and yet we now have a working mod. So why is the MTA Team telling us that so many things are impossible? Aren't they the ones that did the impossible? Why can't they do it again? I am very disappointed at how pessimistic some of the team members are being. Either way, keep it together MTA Team and hang in there. Interesting... Link to comment
Black Dragon Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 yup, you guys made me hate my own kind. it seems yer all cheaters... edit: 'cept rawk and motnt ofcourse Link to comment
b0b0 Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 The cheating makes the game not fun. It isn't fun when someone warps across the map, guns you down with a minigun, and does it again immediately after you have respawned. It is even worse when this person is invincible. The worst part is this happens on every server. As you said so yourself, no one would play if it wasn't fun. Link to comment
[KFC]KungFu Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 You must not have played in the last 6 months because that's the last time I saw a minigun. Also, Even thou cheaters are not gone I don't see them near as much as I hear ppl being accused of cheating. Evidence that crime exists doesn't mean Police are not doing a good job stopping it... You don't see all of the cheaters they have stopped... I don't see that many anymore in the PartyServer.. not like it was at least. Cheating is a lot less than when what you descibed was possible. I have a lot of fun playing this and I think everything that can be done to stop cheating has and will be done. Link to comment
Oli Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 ive gotta say that since the introduction of my subnet warnings of banned ppl... it seems most of the ppl who cheat in my server are actually a group of about 8 ppl who change their name and ip (not mush though) every day, hence making ppl think there are a lot of cheats about... Occassionally we get a new one in, but with all the admins these days hes banned in a few mins.. Basically i think the cheaters are starting to shy off well adminned servers.. certainly mine, i dont know about too many others, but ive definately seen an improvement compared to the 30 or so a day we were getting a month or 2 ago Link to comment
orappa Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 The cheating makes the game not fun. It isn't fun when someone warps across the map, guns you down with a minigun, and does it again immediately after you have respawned. It is even worse when this person is invincible. The worst part is this happens on every server. As you said so yourself, no one would play if it wasn't fun. I've never seen a minigun in MTA, and the bugs in the client make warping and invincibility difficult to prove. Cheating has lessened, but it didn't ever happen on every single server. Link to comment
dystopia Posted June 21, 2004 Share Posted June 21, 2004 yeah, the minigun hack in 0.2.2 was, well, a low down dirty hack lol good riddance. And of course as the amount of time .3 is out, the more time hackers have to, well, hack it. And as much as I hate cheating, I must say that overall cheating is at a low...used to be right before .3 came out, 1/3 of a server would be cheaters. Link to comment
b0b0 Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 If that is the case, then I must have been playing an evil ripoff of MTA 0.3, because the miniguns still existed. I ran into at least two cheaters every time I played the game, and these were real cheaters; what they were doing was too bizarre to be considered bugs. Btw, this was not just my opinion because I often played with at least three other friends. Other players in the server were also complaining. On top of that, some players in the server were just plain stupid because they were asking people how to acquire the cheats. Link to comment
Si|ent Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 If that is the case, then I must have been playing an evil ripoff of MTA 0.3, because the miniguns still existed. Indeed you must, as it's impossible for anyone to have a minigum unless YOU also have a hacked around MTA. I guess if you insist you are seeing miniguns then you must in fact be a cheater yourself. Which kind of invalidates any opinions you have, about anything. In my opinion. Link to comment
Slothman Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 comments like that might make people think twice about reporting bugs maybe he is confused about which gun is the mini gun. Link to comment
orappa Posted June 22, 2004 Share Posted June 22, 2004 If that is the case, then I must have been playing an evil ripoff of MTA 0.3, because the miniguns still existed. I ran into at least two cheaters every time I played the game, and these were real cheaters; what they were doing was too bizarre to be considered bugs. Btw, this was not just my opinion because I often played with at least three other friends. Other players in the server were also complaining. On top of that, some players in the server were just plain stupid because they were asking people how to acquire the cheats. Did you just play on the same servers every time? maybe he is confused about which gun is the mini gun. Perhaps he thought "mini gun" meant a small gun like a pistol Link to comment
Guest Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 i like the filesize checker it would work perfect combined with a banlist it would stop all cheats Link to comment
orappa Posted June 27, 2004 Share Posted June 27, 2004 i like the filesize checker it would work perfect combined with a banlist it would stop all cheats No it wouldn't. It's impossible to stop all cheats. Link to comment
b0b0 Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 If that is the case, then I must have been playing an evil ripoff of MTA 0.3, because the miniguns still existed. Indeed you must, as it's impossible for anyone to have a minigum unless YOU also have a hacked around MTA. I guess if you insist you are seeing miniguns then you must in fact be a cheater yourself. Which kind of invalidates any opinions you have, about anything. In my opinion. Or maybe I'm just hallucinating . I know what I saw. My Vice City and MTA installs are both vanilla. Obviously it is not impossible, as you say, because if that were so I would not be seeing ten people being killed by the same person in less than three seconds with a minigun. Link to comment
darkdreamingdan Posted July 3, 2004 Share Posted July 3, 2004 if i recall corectly with a conversation with kent, he said that miniguns were made UNSYNCED for 0.3. Link to comment
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