Version of 1.3.3 without Nvidia Optimus "support?"

[Rhino]

Hey, people,

Just wondering whether there's a version of 1.3.3 without any "support" for Nvidia Optimus which makes the game unplayable and gives you a dozen of options, none of which work?

That help page asked me to download some patches which fixed nothing and drivers that I already have.

1.3.2 works better than perfectly on this computer; anyone else with this problem?

Will appreciate any assistance.

[ccw]

Have you tried the latest patch from here: https://nightly.multitheftauto.com/?mtasa-1.3.3-rc-latest

Be sure to try each of the 8 options in turn.

If none work, please download and run MTADiag and follow the instructions.

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[Rhino]

Have you tried the latest patch from here: https://nightly.multitheftauto.com/?mtasa-1.3.3-rc-latest

Be sure to try each of the 8 options in turn.

Yeah, I have the latest patch.

None work. My screen starts blinking; I can't do anything: can't even kill the process because everything freezes.

If none work, please download and run MTADiag and follow the instructions.

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I can't start it; it says MSVCP110.dll is missing. :<

[bandi94]

I had same problem and now i think i solved it.

Go to Nvidia control panel =>>Select a PhysX processor and check if the display is on the HD or on Nvidia. If is on the HD change the power setting's to performance , this atleast on my laptop forced the display to switch from the HD to Nvidia.

So when i start MTA Nvidia GPU is already running and don't need to change it from HD to Nvidia, so Nvidia Optimus dose not make change's/confict with MTA. So the game should start normaly atleast on my lenovo does.

[Rhino]

I had same problem and now i think i solved it.

Go to Nvidia control panel =>>Select a PhysX processor and check if the display is on the HD or on Nvidia. If is on the HD change the power setting's to performance , this atleast on my laptop forced the display to switch from the HD to Nvidia.

So when i start MTA Nvidia GPU is already running and don't need to change it from HD to Nvidia, so Nvidia Optimus dose not make change's/confict with MTA. So the game should start normaly atleast on my lenovo does.

I set to Nvidia, but still same stuff on all 8 options. I give up.

[bandi94]

Did you changed the power option to "Performance" ??

[Towncivilian]

Install Visual C++ 2012 Update 3 runtimes then run MTADiag again.

[Rhino]

Install Visual C++ 2012 Update 3 runtimes then run MTADiag again.

http://pastebin.mtasa.com/807023350

[Towncivilian]

Please install the following:

• Graphics driver (326.19 beta - just to see if it will change anything)
  
• Audio driver
  
• Wireless driver
  
• Ethernet driver (do a Repair install if prompted)
  
• Storage driver
  
• Touchpad driver
  
• USB3 driver

Provide another MTADiag log after installing.

[Rhino]

Please install the following:

• Graphics driver (326.19 beta - just to see if it will change anything)
  
• Audio driver
  
• Wireless driver
  
• Ethernet driver (do a Repair install if prompted)
  
• Storage driver
  
• Touchpad driver
  
• USB3 driver

Provide another MTADiag log after installing.

Installed, restarted laptop, etc.

Still doesn't work. Still getting the flashing/blinking effect on standard; on alternate it doesn't start at all.

http://pastebin.mtasa.com/927347430

[Towncivilian]

Looks like the drivers all installed successfully. Is your BIOS current (version 215)? I am unable to tell from the dxdiag log.

[Rhino]

Looks like the drivers all installed successfully. Is your BIOS current (version 215)? I am unable to tell from the dxdiag log.

American Megatrends Inc. N53SV.209, 10.02.2011 :<

[Towncivilian]

Looks like it's version 209. Download BIOS 215 and the Windows flash utility to update it.

BIOS 213 changed the Intel HD Graphics VBIOS, so it might actually do something if we are lucky.

[Rhino]

Updated.

American Megatrends Inc. N53SV.215, 09.01.2012

Standard/standard + exe rename cause screen to flash, like previously.

Alternate/alternate + exe rename give Direct3D CreateDevice error: 8876086a

[ccw]

The MTADiag log shows you are not using the latest nightly.

Please ensure you install this patch: https://nightly.multitheftauto.com/?mtasa-1.3.3-rc-latest

Try the options E,F,G and H

EDIT:

If that doesn't help, try this:

Open NVidia control panel, and go to the 'Manage 3D Settings page'

In the 'Global Settings' tab, make sure preferred graphics processor is 'Integrated graphics'

In the 'Program Settings' tab, find Grand Theft Auto, Multi Theft Auto, (or anything else related to them), and set them ALL to 'Integrated graphics'

[bandi94]

I had some problem , i tryed it whit the HD4000 worked but i had 30-40 fps so he with the HD3000 prity suck fps.

[Rhino]

The MTADiag log shows you are not using the latest nightly.

Please ensure you install this patch: https://nightly.multitheftauto.com/?mtasa-1.3.3-rc-latest

Try the options E,F,G and H

EDIT:

If that doesn't help, try this:

Open NVidia control panel, and go to the 'Manage 3D Settings page'

In the 'Global Settings' tab, make sure preferred graphics processor is 'Integrated graphics'

In the 'Program Settings' tab, find Grand Theft Auto, Multi Theft Auto, (or anything else related to them), and set them ALL to 'Integrated graphics'

Works now, yeah, but I get like 10-25 FPS... All the objects load slowly: this is nothing like 1.3.2 on Nvidia.

I just want to play like I played 1.3.2...

[ccw]

Ok, lets try and find out exactly when the problem started for you.

Please try this last build of 1.3.2 tell me if it works with the NVidia processor:

https://nightly.multitheftauto.com/mtasa-1.3.2-fu ... 130606.exe

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[Rhino]

Ok, lets try and find out exactly when the problem started for you.

Please try this last build of 1.3.2 tell me if it works with the NVidia processor:

https://nightly.multitheftauto.com/mtasa-1.3.2-fu ... 130606.exe

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Nvidia: Direct3D CreateDevice error: 8876086a

Doubt I ever had last build of 1.3.2 installed, though.

Works using integrated.

[ccw]

Try this older version of 1.3.2: https://nightly.multitheftauto.com/mtasa-1.3.2-fu ... 130521.exe

If it works with the NVidia processor, then go to this page: https://nightly.multitheftauto.com/ and tick the 'Show older files' box.

Then scroll down to the list of files that start with 'mtasa-1.3.2-full_rc...' and try and find the last one which worked with the NVidia processor.

[bandi94]

The MTADiag log shows you are not using the latest nightly.

Please ensure you install this patch: https://nightly.multitheftauto.com/?mtasa-1.3.3-rc-latest

Try the options E,F,G and H

EDIT:

If that doesn't help, try this:

Open NVidia control panel, and go to the 'Manage 3D Settings page'

In the 'Global Settings' tab, make sure preferred graphics processor is 'Integrated graphics'

In the 'Program Settings' tab, find Grand Theft Auto, Multi Theft Auto, (or anything else related to them), and set them ALL to 'Integrated graphics'

Works now, yeah, but I get like 10-25 FPS... All the objects load slowly: this is nothing like 1.3.2 on Nvidia.

I just want to play like I played 1.3.2...

ofc it's not as on Nvidia , HD GPU's are low end GPU's and you have an older one the HD3000. The HD GPU is useing your RAM as VRAM make sure it's not locke'd on small memory (You can check in Intel properties how much is in use , and how much can max been taked from your RAM my HD4000 has a manufacture limit of 1.8GB , i can't give more RAM , so i set it up for 1.8GB of Ram ) this may help on your fps , in case is low locked to 256-512mb of VRAM.

[Rhino]

Try this older version of 1.3.2: https://nightly.multitheftauto.com/mtasa-1.3.2-fu ... 130521.exe

If it works with the NVidia processor, then go to this page: https://nightly.multitheftauto.com/ and tick the 'Show older files' box.

Then scroll down to the list of files that start with 'mtasa-1.3.2-full_rc...' and try and find the last one which worked with the NVidia processor.

I remembered that before I updated to 1.3.3 I also updated Nvidia drivers, so I decided to roll back to 314.22.

None of suggested above worked until I installed 314.22 Nvidia drivers (previously had 320-something and later 326.19 beta as Townciv suggested;) once I did that, I managed to launch latest 1.3.3 nightly on standard. Screen still flashes but only 1-2 times then game launches; normal FPS in game again.

This is really weird if you ask me. This seems to be a MTA problem since GTASA SP works well regardless of driver version. Something should be done because not everyone is willing to go through all this. MTA could lose players...

But thanks for your help, people.

ofc it's not as on Nvidia , HD GPU's are low end GPU's and you have an older one the HD3000. The HD GPU is useing your RAM as VRAM make sure it's not locke'd on small memory (You can check in Intel properties how much is in use , and how much can max been taked from your RAM my HD4000 has a manufacture limit of 1.8GB , i can't give more RAM , so i set it up for 1.8GB of Ram ) this may help on your fps , in case is low locked to 256-512mb of VRAM.

Well, yeah, it's kind of obvious that HD3K is worse than 540M, lol.

Edited July 21, 2013 by Guest

[bandi94]

This is really weird if you ask me. This seems to be a MTA problem since GTASA SP works well regardless of driver version. Something should be done because not everyone is willing to go through all this. MTA could lose players...

Yes it's a MTA bug , if you try to run MTA window'ed you will notice that it's working great. In full screen mode, MTA is hooking up the main windows d3d engine , duet NvidiaOptimus is changing the GPU from HD to Nvidia , MTA lose the engine, all this problem is on graphical MTA engine level.

[ccw]

Rhino, thanks for the info. Would you mind helping us with one thing?

If yes, could you try setting 'windowed mode' in MTA Settings, and then re-install the latest NVidia drivers?

[Rhino]

Rhino, thanks for the info. Would you mind helping us with one thing?

If yes, could you try setting 'windowed mode' in MTA Settings, and then re-install the latest NVidia drivers?

Yeah, sure.

But by latest do you mean the beta 326 drivers, or current 320?

[ccw]

The ones you had before rolling back, which I guess was 326