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ALL you NEED 2 KNOW about MTAv0.3b on HOW 2 JOIN & WHAT 2 DO!!

Noobs, take your time & read this carefully!!!

L33ters read what you need.(*)

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Hey everyone,

Since there probably are many peeps (:)) having problems to handle MTAv0.3b, having trouble figuring out the mta-GUI & sorts, ...I decided to launch a new topic on the 'General MTA discussion' forum !

...I 2 want 2 learn a few tips/tricks as possible... ...so do do the needed if you plz and Post'm Here.(just Some Idiaz 2 Do Multilike would D fine also)( speak:"lets..." :)).

I'm shure many'll get helped here in getting MTAv0.3b to work on there PC!!

So ... I GUESS \\// this topic \\// may be long, but shure it shall help ALO(t)! :o

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(*)IF SOME DON'T WANT TO READ EVERTHING!(Though there're many interesting issue's.) I insist you read question (B), as it contains a great/logical TIP I noticed ingame (on my PC) to see other players moving again!! And maybe © to post.

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Preword:

First off all as far as I know, The MTA Team gives, by releasing its GTA3:MTA modification, the Community the opportunity to (test-)play MTAv0.3b. Allready (partially) supported to choos a team & play a Deathmatch(DM)-typed game against all other players OVER the innernet. (for noobs: DM =all_you_can('t)_kill_!!!)

...and you can offcourse shoot(+-), race, punch n chat against/with other players. :) nice

Tip!: Do NOT choose MAFIA team, Bcause Mafia is the bugged team. It could cause more difficulty staying ingame! Choose Diablo!!

Allthough some people say they don't have any problems with it.

There's really nothing wrong with MTAv0.3b, there're only few bugs in it. It's being worked on, allthough ;)them bugs can smthz be pretty amusing.

(Netcoding witch'll reduce lag fo everyone, especially for 28K-connectiontypes, is what is mainly worked on for future release.)

To be honest (for now) a good connection type would be prefferable. I mention again it's being rlly worked on for Mta's next release.

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:arrow: The MAIN PROBLEMS/QUESTIONS, so I have sensed, ARE the FOLLOWING:

(A) HOW DOO I START/CONNECT WITH MTAv0.3b ?? << noobs!!!!!

(B) I PLAYED WITH OTHERS, BUT AFTER A WHILE THE WEREN'T MOVING ANYMORE ??

© WHAT DO I DO INSIDE THE GAME ??

(D) HOW DOO I CHAT [iNGAME] ??

:arrow: I've made this post BIG & detailed. BUT. I also shortened it a bit, right here:

(A) HOW DOO I START/CONNECT WITH MTAv0.3b ?? << noobs!!!!!

(1) Use ASE to find(copie) an (server) IP to join a game.

(2) Click GTA Launcher.

(3) Click GTA3MTA button.(don't connect Yet!)

(4) Sart New Game ->> Sart Multi Theft Auto ->> SEE credits, then push Alt+Tab.

(5) 128KB (14kB/s), check version, fill in nick, type/paste IP.

(6) Press 'Connect to Server' button!, Press 'Send Game request' button!

(7) Choose Diablo team, and do as explaned in detail.

(B) I PLAYED WITH OTHERS, BUT AFTER A WHILE THE WEREN'T MOVING ANYMORE ??

-> Read it in detail!(below)

© WHAT DO I DO INSIDE THE GAME ??

-> Read it in detail!

-> Also post other suggestion on this topic!

(D) HOW DOO I CHAT [iNGAME] ??

->type '/in '.(without the quotes(='') ofcourse!!) => ex. /in hello.

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(A) HOW DOO I START/CONNECT WITH MTAv0.3b ?? -> untill you'dd see real players playing/moving/interacting!! (not ot talk bout seeing cheaters online)

!!!First you NEED AllSeeingEye (ASE)!!! ->(2 find internet games with)

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:arrow: YOU DON'T HAVE ASE PROPERLY INSTALLED & WORKING !! No Panic!

Setting up ASE(AllSeeingEye) is the only part I won't explane.

But don wurry on "??How to set up ASE??", there are explanations/places on the forum you can easelly find all you need.

You better FIRST Go figure out (easy to use -) ASE first & come lookback here a bit later on.

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LOOK at these ASE Topic's on forum TO GET STARTED:

http://forum.multitheftauto.com/viewtopic.php?t=1586(untill "Zeno"'s step 14!)

http://forum.multitheftauto.com/viewtopic.php?t=1157(or check out what "ME"'s postss!)

Or Jlook thrue the forumz!

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As there are no other programme's (th I know off) to find MTA servers online , You will def need to download AllSeeingEye @ the ASE-webpage:

Download ASE: http://www.udpsoft.com/eye2/index.html (dl from N. America or Europe)

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:arrow: YOU HAVE ASE PROPERLY INSTALLED & WORKING !!

As from now you can start with step (1).

(1)

Use a programme called ASE (AllSeeingEye), you can find a Game!

You only use this programme for 2/3 things:

1. Finding a online-game with an amount of players!

How & Where, you say??

->Highlight/Select 'GTA3:MTA'!

->On the left window in ASE. Selecting an installed the game; 'GTA3:MTA'!

Then you push the 'refesh button'(or just push F5)

NOW you should see a list off servers, running at this moment!

2. Copying a server'ip of a servers you want to join.(ex.217.89.233.63:2003).

[Keep in mind you only need the 1e part(217.89.233.63) of the IP to paste into 1e "server ip" textbox. As the second is default(2003) allready filled in at the GUI.]

There are 3 Ways on how you can easally fill in the 'server ip' textbox?

(when GTA3MTA is clicked & a window shows, that's what called an the mta-GUI) (= a client(=you) connection interface)

OR :arrow: Just type in IP: 217.89.233.63

OR :arrow: Highlight your choise of server in ASE and rightmouse -> Copy to clipboard -> Server Adress Ctrl+C

OR :arrow: Highlight your choise of server in ASE and pressing Ctrl+C to copie. yc?

(Read 3., if you want to, because it doesn't work!! I guess. Maybe it'll lateron.)

3. Now this would have been easiest, but it won't work really proper.

You can connect to servers via ASE by a simple dubbleclick(or F9) on the server. It will launch your GTA3.exe automatically. But don't ask me how you "send a game request"!? using ASE , nor also using GUI (because it will only lauch another gta3.exe, etc).

->Beats me !?

REMARQUE: If ASE would 'Send Game request' automatically when connected to server as a player, that would be great.

I guess they'll inplement it 2, you know

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(2)

Click the GTA3 Launcher icon. (witch You have downloaded from http://www.multitheftauto.com/downloads.php?ordner_id=1 & installed into your GTAIII folder)

(So GTA3 Launcher: will be located in the folder you installed MTAv0.3b; this should be Rockstar Games/GTAIII; when you have found it, copy it to your desktop!)

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(3)

Now click onto GTA3MTA button (choice2 out off 6choices): to launch:

:arrow: the MTA programme (the GUI=MTA popup window).

:arrow: GTA3.exe ,that is emmediatly after, automatically minimalized.

( Me!?, I found the automatic minimalizing really NOT nessecary, allthough minimallizing GTA3 was put in to allow confort. Yes, it's a confort! Still the auto-minimalizing could be left out, because i allways go in gta first untill the Credits, before I try my first connection attempt.)

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(4)

TIP: I suggest you also do what I find much easier & quicker, by just going ingame(gta3.exe) again untill the Credits >> (so Maxamize after auto-Minimized !! )...

HOW, you say ??

Click the GTA3.exe (desktop) to Sart New Game, Sart Multi Theft Auto untill you see the MTA Team's Credits.(that's all). ...and THEN I minimalize (= Alt+Tab) (don't push Esc first = NOT nesseccarry!)

Next, it is time to (fin) connect! -> (5).

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(5)

Now in mta-GUI: (GUI = MTA console):

:arrow: Always (& everyone) leave the "connection type(upload)" to its default. 128KB (14kB/s)!!

(this IS recommended by Trx; Mta develloper)

:arrow: Check what GTA Version you got (v0.1 or v1.1).

(v1.1 = GTA3 upgrade with the gta3patch1.1 -> search with google if needed)

(I play with version0.1!: and all works fine!)

:arrow: Fill in ya'nick(-name) in the "nick textbox" in GUI.

(you are capable of using 14 characters in your nickname, Bware!! there is possible minimum off characters also!!)

[this could be a (if not the) problem for some peeps]

:arrow: Paste (ctrl+v) the IP you copied from ASE (see (1)) into the "IP textbox" in GUI.

Carefull it will paste ###.###.###.###:#### and you only need ###.###.###.### .

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(6)

:arrow: 1. Press 'Connect to Server' button!

YOU WAIT TO EVENTUALLY SEE the following:

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Waiting for request

Assigned ID: 2

Gametype: DM

Connection found, ping received

!!!

OR

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Look for ORANGE LED, indicating your connectionstatus:

(on the right side next to'Connection Status')

-> LED IS ON/ORANGE: you ARE connected !

-> LED ISN'T OFF/ORANGE: you AREN'T connected !

!!!

&

:arrow: 2. Press 'Send Game request' button!

(do not press this button when you didn't see the credits yet)

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This Step (6) should almost never fail.(ifstepsRfollowdcorr!)

If it DOES FAIL:

Fully recheck atleast step number (5) again!

OR

Its probably the server you CANNOT connect to!

(you can get an error message; my intuition always tells my it's due to the server OR the server sjust 2 far away from your hometown !!)

(A better PC or Connection-type could help here. Sorry, but that's how it is, sometimes.)

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Oh, yeah, ussually, at this moment on, you could type a little announcement into the (outgame-)chatbox: ex. You type '/in hi there'.

Can also read (D) to learn the chat.

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(7)

Now it's finally time to play! :D

Click on your GTA3 (blow your desktop) 2 return too the MTA Credits again. And there! w8 3 secs.

You should NOW notice you can choose a Team. (Again, choose Diablo!!, Mafia has a bug!!). So Step into the blue (diablo-)marker!

When you spawn at the Diablo's hideout, you take a look at you radar. You should NOW see some other players appearing. They are represented by GREEN DOTS (moving/not-moving):

:arrow: If GREEN DOTS/Players ARE moving:

:arrow: Congratulations, you are IN! & you "can" read (B) if U wish OR just go out n play!

:arrow: If GREEN DOTS/Players AREN't moving:

:arrow: You can do the following:

1. press eEsc

2. press Alt+Tab

3. choose the MTA console (GUI) and press DISCONNECT

4. press CONNECT

5. press SEND game request

6. return to the game and you will see peapole playing again! So you can read (B)

How, you say?? -> alt+Tab too gta3 or click gta3 blow your desktop

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You should NOW be able to see and play with the other players, who are NOW REALLY showing to be moving!

If not!?, try DISCONNECTING and RECONNECTING again.

If still not, DISCONNECT!, EXIT all! & TRY again.

Or connect to another server. Maybe also trying another nick.

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(B) I PLAYED WITH OTHERS, BUT AFTER A WHILE THE WEREN'T MOVING ANYMORE ??

OR 1:

You can:

1. press eEsc

2. press Alt+Tab

3. choose the MTA console (GUI) and press DISCONNECT

4. press CONNECT

5. press SEND game request

6. return to the game and you will see peapole playing again! So you can reAD (B).

How, you say?? -> alt+Tab too gta3 or click gta3 blow your desktop

again!

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OR 2:

-> = TIP, I'M almost POSSITIVE OFF! And I quote 'almost', not 100%!

-> The dissapearing off the (non-moving)dots CAUSES reappearance off some !MOVING! greendots/players again !!!

I ask, Do try to understand! This is Actually a pretty logical TIP.

This TIP doesn't always work, but I post it, because I've seen many players reappear by it.

Goal is to get NOT-MOVING players in losing all their healt, so that it CAUSES dissappearing from radar. And reappearance again!!!! (NOT Always!)

(non-moving players = when you see a Tommy Vercetti walking against a wall, just acting stupid n s**t)

When you notice the players aren't moving anymore, you just keep yourself bussy wasting as much non-moving players, getting your PC to know the player's currnet data.

(as if the current data reaches your PC correctly again, you can see allz working well now)(you can play gainst/with others now without having to DIS-and RECONNECT Again !!!!!)

So most important is to make sure the green dot (or the player & its'Blue arrow pointing above its head if you like) on the radar disapeares!

HOW?

You can park-kill (most effective) Or road-kill them really fast, by running them over (prefferably slowly), parking your car ontop, with the (I normally park my car & get another car, since the disappearing takes a while.)

There NOW should be a/some player(s) vissible again. Or in an little amount off patience.

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DOWNSIDE:

The green dots, who appear to be visible on your radar, could just also represent a player who disconnected shortly (i guess :roll: ).

Then you are actually trying this TIP WITHOUT actually "getting someWhere".

This could get anoying, and can be due to an error. So if this is the case, you'll know it after pressing Alt+Tab, reading the error in Windows.

What I mean is, killing dots/arrows won't ALWAYS solve 2 see other mov again emmediatly!

You'dd have to participate a bit to make some more arrows/dots fanish from ya'radar. Or notice quick enough there is an error taking place!

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© WHAT DO I DO INSIDE THE GAME ??

:arrow: search & approach those green dots on the radar

:arrow: get yourself a bus, driving That for once.

:arrow: just RAM!

:arrow::idea: (You can also do nothing and just verveel (US accent) yourself!!) Hehee :)

:arrow: Just breaking some glass windows with another player, each in a car !!

And fight your arses off together, to win by breaking the last glass window standing near Portland metro-entrance) -> little laugh , ..., )

:arrow: Ram another again and Do all the possible to flip his car over ->> he has to crawl out ->> You mostly CAN'T (road-)kill him.

->REMARQUE ON that:

:arrow: I noticed When raming & player's car flips over, he get's out, bug seem 2 take over.

You notice the player's data is lost again, so You can start doing the TIP [explained in (B)nr.2] again!

BUT HOWEVER!, sometomes the player reappears automaticly, me being surprized he didn't have to crawl out off his car afteral! I like!

TIP 2 use in MTAv0.3b: (That's allready beeing done!)

:arrow: By just using ingamechat with outgamechat you can try to get somebody's attention. Get him to talk to you about sth (Race, ...) you wanna Do/Suggest what you'r both could prob be in for. Chat! :)

-> maybe some more examples/suggestions: Do post :idea:'zzz.

:arrow: Race to stauton, starting at Tunnel, allowing to go your own freakin route! You first aggree (thrue chat) to race back to the sarting point(tunnel)! And maybe chant about it later on.

!More player should garrantee to B more fun!

:arrow: A race from the policestation in Portland to the other in Staunton! :) Sarting from anywhere!!

->Chat!!; aggree!!; type '/in R U R, Set, GoGoGOOO!'.

:arrow: A (multi-) subway-race!

:arrow: Following each other around, doing some Wild_Stunt_Jumps ontop off, onto-, into-, over Objects OR -Places.

:arrow: you can also DOthink off other things:idea:yourself... & post them Here!

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(D)HOW DOO I CHAT [iNGAME] ??

AAAAh.

So you are also capable off typing a [iNGAME]Message. Textmessage that will be displayed ingame, for other players to see.

Just by typing '/in ' or '/me ' (without the quotes).

(/me displayes a message starting your nick followed by your message)

(/in displayes a ingame-message starting your nick followed by your message ingame)

It even doesn't matter were you put /in into your sentence.

->Maybe an example:

If you want to type "hi, everyone", just type /in hi everyone. And your messages will be printed ingame for others to See/Read!

->The only DOWNSIDE about the chat-option is that you can only write it @ the outgame chat. (there being worked on a voice chat in next release)

So you gotta Alt+Tab every time.

BUT, it's Still handy to tell some1 where you wanna meet OR just to say '/in hi'. :)

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->The reason there isn't put in a ingamechatoption during yourplay ingame,is because I think the keys (=buttons if you like) you use to type, are the same keys you use to play gta3.

(ex. if your f-key is set to enter a car (on your gta3).And you are standing near a car while you type. You WILL enter that car when you the the 'f' in your !

The gta-keys can'T be unbinded in "easy_mode" in GTA, while a (type/read_ingame-)chatoption is running!

Allthough I remarque it, it wouldn' have bothered me much if The MTA Team wouldn't have left it out from Mtav0.2. But I'm sure they have their reasons. :)

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P.S.: -> you can still put the ingamechat ON/OFF. I guess it's used to if you set other players'messages to be shown or not for U.

(textmessages shown in the left, upper corner off the screen during game)

:arrow: Shift+Z = Chat/textmessages On.

:arrow: Shift+X = Chat/textMessages Off.

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Supporting the Community!

Keeping in mind We're all lucky bastards -> thx 2 ...!! ;)

Keep up the go_Od work, devs!!

Major fan here!! Cheering Releases!!

P.S.:

->Try making a habbit always Disconnecting before you Exit! :) ty.(it's known to cause problems in Mtav0.2; I'm not certain if it causes any prblms in the MTAv0.3b release)

->Plz, ply MultiThftAuto with a (>> thinknew,fresh) Clean Install!! if you pleaze?

->too MTA Team: I personally encouradge synched'cars to be putted in later release (I know it will be), as in without it, you can sometimes really get disturbed.

GTA_mp fo'real!!

->Annie1, Feel free to paste this forumtopic-(urlshaped)link anyWhere you like asked for when serious crying :cry::cry::cry: is envolved. HeHeHee. :)

Hope this has been of any use.

Also any complaints about the lenght of this post are perfectly normal. :cry:

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Thank you very very much! This is what i needed. And i got it to work.

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welll....ive read it all, tried it all and failed....

the farthest i get is:

i join a game, see the green dots, drive to green dots...

but when i get there, there is a player (or 2-3 number is not of matter) and it looks like that player was (example) driving into another player...but then time freezed for them when i came in....i can shoot them.....steal their cars, kick them when thiere down...BUT THEY DONT MOVE!.....sometimes i get a player running from (around) the mafia mansion, hes just running down the street, goes over 2 sidewalks and finally run into a wall.....(notice: he does that EVERY time)...

pls help...ive tried everything now!

Specs.

win98

512/512 adsl

gta3 1.1

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welll....ive read it all, tried it all and failed....

the farthest i get is:

i join a game, see the green dots, drive to green dots...

but when i get there, there is a player (or 2-3 number is not of matter) and it looks like that player was (example) driving into another player...but then time freezed for them when i came in....i can shoot them.....steal their cars, kick them when thiere down...BUT THEY DONT MOVE!.....sometimes i get a player running from (around) the mafia mansion, hes just running down the street, goes over 2 sidewalks and finally run into a wall.....(notice: he does that EVERY time)...

pls help...ive tried everything now!

Specs.

win98

512/512 adsl

gta3 1.1

I no your problem i had that 2. And i solf it. You cant play MTA v0.3b if you have win98 or ME and DSL. I solft is buy instaling win 2000. Its bether and faster than XP and less bugs than 98 (and it fix the pronlem).

:arrow: So instal windows 2000 pro.

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you CAN play MTA with 98, but it bugs up more often, and it's harder to set up... remember to install the win 98 MTA patch.

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yeah..i installed the win98 patch......still dont work...

ah well....ill wait till 0.4 ....if that doesent work...then 0.5 and if that doesent work then......etc....etc.....

sorry...i wont bother you with more of my noob-ass questions... :(:cry:

i really REALLY looked forward to this......

so those who have it working....enjoy it.... :cry::cry:

(btw.... i sat about 4-5 hours to make it work.....imagine the disappointment.....im actually really sad now... :cry: )

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aw... I think bon3101 needs a hug.... {{{bon3101}}}

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ty me :wink: lol

why i dont upgrade???

ive used 98 since i was a kiddie... i know it better than the bums on my ass :D

edit:: if i should install a new windows, wich one should it be....pls not 2000 or xp...

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Yeah but all the new games and stuff may not be Compatible with 98.

I suggest 2000. I've never had a problem with it!!!

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how about winme??? yah..i kno it suck donkeyballs......but has any1 had problems with it?

(with mta that is...)

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I think so becuase ME is just like 98 but a bit more internet friendly so your best bet is win 2000 or xp

BUT XP SUX WIN 2K ALL THE WAY BABY!!!!!

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:( i have a 80gig hd......filled with 75 gig valuable data..(for me atleast)...

and i dont have the money for burnable cd's till in 2 months....so the longest i may have to wait is those 2 months.............. :(

hey...or u could donate some burnable cd's to the poor guy who cant play mta!

yeah right.... :(

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:!::!::!: That's over 100 700MB CDs :!::!::!:

Why not buy a smallish HD to install Windows on and keep your 80gig as second drive?

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Why not buy a smallish HD to install Windows on and keep your 80gig as second drive?

I agrre. Why don't you buy a new HD and keep your old one as second drive.

:!: But I'm positive next release will insure no problems connecting what so ever! :wink:

Its to bad it doesn't work for you. I give this game a week an its buyable in the stores. It's REALLY GREATE MAN, well, ..., actually, you're not really missing that much.

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i work in a kindergarden and cant afford a new hd..... :(

but cant afford 100 cd's too... :?

Its to bad it doesn't work for you. I give this game a week an its buyable in the stores. It's REALLY GREATE MAN, well, ..., actually, you're not really missing that much.

wrong... all i ever wanted in gta3 was the multiplayer :cry:

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Because I partially understand the situation you're in

I reconsidered you're earlier remarque and I :

but when i get there, there is a player (or 2-3 number is not of matter) and it looks like that player was (example) driving into another player...but then time freezed for them when i came in....i can shoot them.....steal their cars, kick them when thiere down...BUT THEY DONT MOVE!.....sometimes i get a player running from (around) the mafia mansion, hes just running down the street, goes over 2 sidewalks and finally run into a wall.....(notice: he does that EVERY time)...

Did you also try, instead of just trying to shoot the player that suck, park your car ontop off him ? !whereafter! you get out off your car, leaving your car! ontop off Tommy Vercs, to come back litlle later on (?) to see the blue arrow disappeard ??

Cause that's whateyedo, n I get another car, whereafter I suddnly noticed to my Happy_eyed_Surprize :P:!: that same arrow became active again somewhere intown!

CAUSE that's what the TIP I meationed is actually all about. It really works/worked/(but not always) on my PC.

BUT

The "Blue arrow" dissappearing >> causing reappearance off others again, DOESN'T always work, Bcause I think :roll: , by playrz disconnecting ...or having problems.

LOTA TIME WASTED

Hope you try park ontop, leave, n then come back to that same place to see no more player under the hood, then driving elsewhere to finnally find another find to mp with. :o:P

:arrow: Good luck 2 ya !!!!

PS: it CAN always be due to the connection-type you got &/or speed in MHz.

yoooo

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:shock: WHAT US ASE!?!?! :cry:

please! FOR THE LOVE OF GOD HELP ME!!! :(

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... *pucnhs baz in the gut* thats for the stupid question.

ASE is a server browser, like gamespy, I though EVERYONE by know knew that, all you had to do wassearch, search on google for it. there.

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Ok, well some of you might know me as the loser who got his post locked. :lol: Well any ways, right now, in Calgary Alberta Canada, it's 10:25 PM. I've been sitting here with MTA v 0.3b running minimized, and 2 MTA foot wondows, trying to connect to a game. This is all it says in the right window:

Welcome to MTA

Version 0.3 (Build 5291127-G)

Connecting to server

Waiting for request

And that's it. I know ME users suck, and my dad won't like me upgrading our comp 2 2000. I'll see if I can but...Well, If anyone can please help me, mabey send me the installer of 2000 or somthing. Please, I've also followed the instructions at the beggining of the forum, and that's it. Thanks for your time. Peace

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I tryed that, and it sayed 'Error 10057 Sockect is not Connected'

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