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$25-$30 threw paypal. For less than that price, if you have a Playstation, you could just buy San Andreas and play two player on that with peds and traffic?

Everything actually turned slo-mo? I know the adreneline pill in Stunt Mode used to make the screen sway as if you were drunk, similar to one of Phil's missions, but in real time. Is that what you mean? If it actually went slo-motion then err.....ideas anyone?

I suppose if everyone in the server listen you could pursaude a group of them to play Catch The Whoopie. If you play GTA3:MTA there's a game mode where you have to catch the Securicar and take it back to your teams base. I suppose thats based around Capture The Flag.

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then whats the purpose of the bar at all? if its such trouble to update, make a PHP control for the bars and what %, whats illuminated. if you are not going to be updated, i dont really see the purpose of the bars at all. that space might as well read: [WID] Problem is, I bet if the bars are gone, I've got a bad feeling a lot of people will lose interest in Blue's development. Although the percentage bars may be inaccurate, it still gives some people a little security and knowledge no one has forgotten about Blue.

Yeah, online has had a great effect on both games, each being good in its own specific way. Vice City, having a lot more servers, a bigger map and a larger array of weaponary and car chases, including helicopters. However, if it's a community you're looking for, personally I'd go with GTA3, which at the moment is my favourite of the two for online play. Although there are less servers, it does mean there is a greater sense of community among players. It is slightly better synchronised and in my opinion chases in Dodo's are a lot more fun than in helictopers. Both games are £20 (about $35?) and in platinum. I'm sure you can find a shop where you can get it buy one get one free, but if you're strapped for money, GTA3 is your best bet in my opinion.

But isn't the name of this game Grand Theft Auto? One of the main concepts in this game IS to run people over? What do you do half the time in Single Player? This is Vice City...or Liberty City...people. Anything can happen out there. That's what makes multiplayer so fun and unpredictable. I understand that it can get frustrating when you've worked for a kill and if someone takes it from a car, but thats the unpredictability of this game. I honestly dont see the point of the team working so hard to synchronise cars if most players make up unwritten rules that you can't use them to go on killing sprees. Server rules i can understand, however its the unwritten rules that you are a "n00b" or "lamer" if you use cars or helicopters as a force of action. You don't see that happening in Battlefield 1942 or Unreal Tournament do you? Ok, different games and communities but it's the same sort of concept here. Without "carkills" or even "helikills" doesn't this game just turn into one huge game of Quake?....just with better graphics, better weapons and a bigger arena... In my opinion Car kills add a variation to killing and an unpredicitbility about the game which is what makes Vice City (or Liberty) so fun to be in.

Muhahahaaa i'm up for the challenge ...i'll probably be crap and end up losing the challenge...but i'm up for it nonetheless!

I personally go for the longer range weapons, like the M16 and Ruger, find a good roof top somewhere and snipe off some players from a good distance. Heheh. This is why I can't wait for the sniper to come out Of course, you get all the flames of people out there screaming "Camper" at the top of their voices whereas they don't seem to realise why long range weapons were included online. But that's going a little off topic, so i'll get back on. I sometimes go for the stubby on one of those days, where you've had a really bad day at school, and reeeally need to vent on some people lol. But its normally the longer range weapons that do it for me.

I can sort of see where you're coming from. Most people spawn as robbers nowerdays and it becomes a lot harder even escape from Phil's Place after spawning lol. However, despite although the stubby is becoming an extremely easy weapon to kill others with (and lets face it, in real life i doubt you'd last long being shot with one at point blank people lol) but the stubby does provide some good End Game standoffs. There's a lot of good points and both bad about that stubby. Although like i said earlier, i can see your point, I really hope people won't be complaining when the Sniper or Rocket Launcher is released. GTA prides itself on the multiple ways of killing others, including the large array of weaponary. Some weapons will be more dominant than others, and will be a good starting point for the newbies out there who needs a little help with shooting. I think the Stubby or Cop Shotgun will be the ideal weapon for them. Other weapons require a little more skill and aim, such as long distance weapons (M16, Micro machine guns etc) I think will more likely be used by the veterans who look for a bit of a challenge. Maybe, not as a rule but more of an unwritten code, this distinction of weapons could be used in the future? I don't know, it's only an opinion at least.

What are you going to do? Run up to someone at point blank with one?

*Wonders where that came from*

I suppose an official anti cheat system could be intergrated, like PunkBuster for example, or something similar. I know this isn't new and has been suggested, but it really works wonders for games such as America's Army.

My theory with loser-pansy-script kiddie-gametrash, is that they really are too rubbish at the game and find the simplest of tasks too difficult - so they make a mod to play it for them...

26 players will be interesting

...What do you think I just told you? If you're going to start having a tantrum I advise you READ the instruction manual rather than moaning and wasting space on these forums...

Oh you should have specified... Go to Filters, Configure Games and find the newer MTA.exe for MTA.

The download is on the front MTA page. http://www.mtavc.com/downloads.php?file_id=78.

To be fair, in real life I'd like to see how long you last if someone shot you at point blank with a sawn off. If we're not careful with these type of posts and one of them actually get through (which is doubtful) all we'd get left with is a Colt. 45...

Did you reinstall All Seeing Eye, or MTA in the end before you started spamming posts?

Okay I've been thinking about this one and hopefully should be possible to implement since it's already in game: The Loop De Loop (http://www.geocities.com/snowman4uk/loop_de_loop2.jpg (Please excuse my fantastic drawing skills) You know those Loop De Loops in the Dirt Ring? If you can get the ramps from there, you think you can get the loop de loops? Here I've stuck it on the Downtown main road, mainly because it's straight and there's enough run up for even the slow cars to take a shot. I hope you'll find a way to implement this into the Stunt mode, and will hopefully fit nicely into the middle of the main road. If not the large loop de loop then hopefully the smaller one. Cheers

Hmm, not quite what I had in mind. I thought it was to be an actual tool where it'll load the mission straight there, rather than downloading the save games...

Yeah that sounds interesting. There's a lot of missions I'd love to try again.

Not sure about that. Try Googling it. For Google is powerful and...knowledgable.. EDIT: Thinking about it, try http://www.codenamevice.co.uk/vicecity/. If you have no luck with that try one of the links from there.

Didn't you notice the scoreboard?