VCES>RonSeal

Randomize what exactly. 3rounds, Attack/Defend/TDM. Usual Base Rules. 10 min prep time ? We played you just a few nights ago, WITH pick ups. Didn't take long did it 10 min prep time is what it takes to do pick ups! Playing a round is what takes up the time (i presume you will be doing this). Sure, great idea, let's restrict the weapons people can use, and force them into playing a set character so they can have a decent weapon. I still cling to the idea that skill across all types of weapons is beneficial. 3 cheers for robber sailor wars.... Still, were not in it, so good luck to you. Rules are lacking though. HAVE FUN.

So 10 minute preparation time.... And no pick ups..... As i said before, i can do all my pickups in under a few minutes. Is it no pickups to save time ? Why disallow pick ups? "No Pickups allowed at all costs however Pickups from dead bodies are allowed" So i can have certain guns once the round starts, but not before, k. Pfft, nvm, have fun. PS. 3rd round is TEAMDEATHMATCH

I'm amazed this thread has lasted so long without people getting banned. I got banned once, and i know who banned me as i got a PM. The moderator even gave me a reason for the ban. (Criticising the Moderators/Admin). Be careful people

The rules VCES have used are pretty standard Dom. We allow all pick ups except for flamer, and we allow some people on the roof and some on the ground. We have no fear whatsoever about using a heli to attack people on roof tops, and you know full well, on many an occassion we have died in a big heliburning roundlosing heli attack. We don't mind, thats what makes the matches so fun. Cortez needs a vehicle to get onto the jetty, your right. And you can get onto the yacht by foot. It's a legal base, not that we would use it, if we did we would have to then attack it ourselves, and it's a right bitch. So far i've seen suggestions for shotguns only and no rooftop bases. We won't play because those sort of crap idea's take away half the fun.

Don't continue to remove the exciting elements of MTA matchplay. By suggesting what you have suggested, you will drastically reduce the amount of decent bases avaliable. No weapon pick ups - No 'unreachable' bases. Sounds like a stubby war to me. I don't agree with all the defenders being on the roof, but half of them is fair in my eyes. Hieu, this tournament has failed to start yet, mostly due to the bickering over the rules. Why don't you just stick to the rules clans have used for over a year and a half. I have said it before, and i will say it again, use the usual match rules and you can include VCES in the tournament. Did you realise Cortez's yacht is reachable by foot ?

No, most clans know him buy now, DJ_Dan is jealous

ULK no longer play MTA as a clan, nor are they involved in matches. ULK > UVA may well be correct though

Not going with the rules on page 1 then

Why don't you try the idea of allowing people to choose, what they want to play with. Personally myself I always use cop skin, it's more habit now than anything else. But i also like to have at least one Long Range weapon pick up, and a few mollies or nades, in everyday play and in matches. This process normally takes me about 2 minutes, easily done before the opposing clan get in the server or declare thereselves ready. The length of time pickups usually takes in matches is because everyone decides they need guns too, one clan normally takes all the helis, and i haven't seen many clans considering going as a group for pick ups. Hence the delay. Making it a no pick up match spoils the fun. Sure it will be quicker, but, for a lot of people, it loses it's appeal. You either have time to play, or you haven't. Allow all weapon pick ups, set a time limit, which if not adhered to on a regular basis, will kick the clan out of the tourney. Surely people can wait 5 minutes to organise before the round starts? Some clans VCES have played against have even shared heli's for weapon pick ups and behaved with maturity (not killing people b4 the round starts is helpful). I like all weapons, and all have their different qualities and all have an important role in matches. If you want a 2 minute round, all spawns at Phils and have a stubby match, which is what most people who scream "No Pick Ups" do the rest of the time anyway. Soz it's long, Rant Over. EDIT: Oops i forgot, allow pick ups and VCES are in to if allowed.

Good luck to the latest new clans

Got ya PM Boro, i'll let you know when the next 'Theme Night' is.

Most servers have such a script already, or similar. Ours for example let's you buy houses, sell cars, rob people, arrest people for cash, and pay people who do you favours or a job It's not Monopoly, but close

Nobody has yet provided a reliable way to deal with the cheater problem. Only live admins can deal with it 100% effectively. Keep at it though Fayte, i for one do appreciate the work people like yourself do.

If you live in a major UK city, 8mb is now avaliable from certain companies (Bulldog,UKOnline) being the 2 i know of.

We used to do formation flying with the 3 Mavericks in MTA.3.2. Great fun but real hard Hands up who lands the Hydra conventionally Hands up who lames out and does a Vertical landing

Whats wrong with the rules ? What is so 'terrible' ? Some areas may not of been covered, but whats there already certainly aren't terrible May i also suggest you make some Bump, your obviously 'the man'. That reminds me, when am i going to be honoured in playing against VCA in a clan war? I've never played against you, nay, never seen you in a server. In regards to VCES playing in this, it's a no. Make it international, and we will reconsider.

As the topic suggests, we are reviving Theme Games. Some of you may recall playing in them, some even may wish to participate again We now have a dedicated server, and hope to lure new players to this different style of playing MTA. It is NOT deathmatch, and requires honest people who have patience and can co-operate. If you have enough of the above, you can have an enjoyable game. This week we are mostly playing Escape And Evade an old favourite. We are in the process of developing scripts for each theme game, and welcome scripting help and new Theme Game suggestions. Full details at VCES.NET That is all

Welcome to the World of MTA (have you played yet ? )

I also had trouble understanding the benefits of this topic. But once he typed in red, i was putty in his hands ! You rule Fingers crossed for tomorrows idea

VCES:: Vice City Emergency Services SAES :: San Andreas Emergency Services URL: http://www.vces.net IRC: irc://irc.gtanet.com/saes Live server statistics such as live chat, arrests, kills, etc can be watched on our dashboard: http://dashboard.vces.net VCES/SAES are a UK based Clan but accept members from any country as long as they can speak English and use IRC and Teamspeak 3. VCES/SAES formed in November 2003 and is still going strong. Recruitment is as and when we need to, applications are welcome on the VCES Forum. Our VC server is closed whilst we concentrate on MTA:SA, however will be open on special occasions, please checkout the vces.net main page for annoucements. You can join our SA server at mtasa://mta.vces.net:5435 (78.46.40.209:5435), It is currently running its own RP script which includes a banking system, house market and also includes medic/cop/criminal/mechanic missions, however its still work in progress, any bugs you can report to our website. Teamspeak is avaliable, check the VCES forum for login details. In addition to the RP scenario,we also run a "Team Deathmatch" server known as our RvB (Red vs Blue) server. The address for this server is: mtasa://mta.vces.net:7175 (78.46.40.209:7175) aswell these servers we also do 'Theme Game' Nights check the VCES forum's for additonal details. These are invitation only and we play games like 'Cops & Robbers', 'Escape and Evade' and 'King of the Hill'. Check our clan forum for game rules, and also ask to be invited if you wish Any other information you require can be found at WWW.VCES.NET. LAST UPDATED: 5th July 2010

You have my support for this idea. Perhaps a 'Daily' thread for all MTA issues not related to specific gangs. ? The sticky idea though, is a good one EDIT: Best make the sticky order alphabetical, to avoid arguments over who get's nearer the top. I don't mind being at the bottom

I got the same problem, had it for a few weeks and just noticed the thread. Difference is, this system has been running the game fine for over 18 months, then this occured after a reformat. I've checked all the BIOS settings etc, latest drivers, Direct X, but i still have it. XP is also unstable and has been after at least 10 formats. I'm guessing my GFX card is ill ? Or a power issue

Thx for the usual input Bish, hope to seeing you playing MTA again one day...... Yes Mills has been a silly boy, but he isn't the first nor will he be the last. Amazingly it's the first time we have had a problem such as this occur within VCES since our inception. But hey, shit happens.

True, it's a busy server, but you normally get one busy server and a sprinkling of servers with a few people in. Year ago you would have a number of full servers, i'm sure things will get better with Blue.... (prays) ROFL at the ULK ban, i wonder why