Sorry for bumping this, but while doing some Google'ing I came across this thread, and I am somewhat disgusted. Many of the people here don't seem to know why SA:MP "dislikes" MTA. Well, take this topic for instance. If someone were to start a topic on the SA:MP forum called "SA:MP and MTA", it would surely get deleted, and here's why.
Firstly, forget about the past, it's not important. Bye bringing things up from the past, you are only trying to continue the war. Currently, Kye is developing a mod for GTA San Andreas, which makes it Multiplayer. You guys are also developing a Multiplayer mod for GTA San Andreas, and I respect that, but by not deleting this topic shows that you definitely support the conflict between the two mods, and you are making no effort to stop it. So if you want the conflict to end, you can start by not allowing or promoting the comparison of SA:MP and MTA on your forum. This includes all the "We're better than SA:MP because we have ". Instead of bitching about SA:MP, spend your time working on making MTA better instead.
One other thing before I move on. I'm sure Kye is sick of hearing about MTA, so don't go on FFSNetwork's #sa-mp channel and promote MTA. We've heard it all before, it's boring, and we're sick of it. Us SA:MP'ies are there to talk about SA:MP, and advertising like that just makes me want to avoid playing MTA.
Now don't get me wrong, I have played MTA before, I'm not just a random hater. It's alright, but here's why I don't play it.
The first time I installed it (over a year ago), it refused to launch at all, no idea why, and there was no decent explanation. SA:MP worked on that same installation and MTA wouldn't, so I got pissed off and went back to SA:MP.
A few weeks ago I tried it again, and I got it to run, and it really does look like you've put a lot of effort into it. Although, it's straying away from the original game. Let's just say I am a hard-out GTA San Andreas fan and I play it all the time, and I find that there are these Multiplayer mods for it. Great! So let's say I decide to try out MTA. Well all the gameplay has been modified, and it'd be very easy for me to get frustrated with not knowing how to play, and just go back to single player. As many have said, the beauty of SA:MP is the way you can just install it and play it, and it's very easy to pick up. Simplicity is key.
Anyway, I'm going to make some replies to some of your quotes now.
I have never used the MTA map editor, and I have plenty of objects in my SA:MP game mode. Not everyone on SA:MP uses it, just so you know.
Right there, you just made an attack at Kye, and in an obvious attempt to make MTA seem better, you said "the one that players should support". When you say things like that, you are being arrogant. How is it fair to say which mod people "should" support? It's up to the players.
i though you were serious until i read that
oh and yes, pressing a key is definitely harder than remembering and typing in a command name, computers in general made our lives really really hard. you can barely survive a week with them near you.
Here is an example of an MTA player just shooting at a SA:MP player for no obvious reason at all. There is a quote somewhere in this thread which moans about SA:MP players doing this exact same thing to MTA players, well it's happening both ways, buddy!
The way you spin this conversation off is odd. I was there at the time, and you were just attacking Kye in his own channel. He posted your info after you told him that you didn't think that an event in the past where someone else did the same to Kye was a big deal. And now you're making a big deal about it here, which is just plain hypocriticism.
Once again, you avoid giving the whole story.
That post there was in reply to SugarD-x, who raised some valid points. Fedor_s used some nasty language earlier in the thread, yet you did not warn him for that.
Kye does not get that money. Woet does, and in return, Woet supplies an IRC network, and hosts the SA:MP websites, master list, and hosted tab. He also spends a considerable amount of time maintaining these services, and for you to discredit him is very rude.
As I said at the beginning of this post, Kye does not care about MTA, and does not want to hear about it. So don't post questions about OTHER mods on HIS website, and there won't be a problem.
Well, that's pretty much all I have to say. Basically, if you guys want the hating to stop, you have to make an effort too. You could start by locking this thread.