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huh? I know the GTAT and SA MP group were working together at one point, but I thought SA MP was dead, and what remained of it became GTAT'? which IMO- is a very very buggy, crash infested, hardly synched at all multiplayer mod. I am glad it exsits, only to show us why we need MTA lol. So, keyman and his team, after having quit a long time ago, came back to resume where they left off?........ Ah forget it. I am not gona bother getting excited until there is an actual release, and it actually rocks. That team broke my dreams once, and I ain't getting suckered again easily. Competition is good otherwise, as each side is trying to make a better mod then the other. Then again, these 2 teams are trying to make a different online experience....... Which is just a watered down way of saying there is indeed a bitter competition, amungst former best friends turned mortal enemies in this cut-throat biz of winners and losers

good to hear Once we have respawning, mappers will be able to make some sick minded, totally twisted races, as it won't be soo bad anymore if racers die =) At the moment races have to be very passive in jumps or stunts they do contain, as it is very easy to kill a racer.

Considered....... lol servers that would not run respawning (if it were an option) would be empty servers. Consider that, before thinking respawning would somehow be a bad idea. Or don't add it, I don't really care anymore as I am falling into that catagory of (I got bored of it after a few hours), yet that is not what I originally voted for..... I am already ready for the DM mode, yet I know it is a looooong ways away yet. Really though, are some of you guys starting to get bored like me? There is not enough new maps out there and the few I did play, really sucked. BLUE lived up to the hype as far as the performance is concerned-- the core is great the menu is great the stability is great Heck the car synching is pretty darn good too (compared to previous versions and other GTA online mods) Yet somehow this current version.... gets.... very.... boring after a few days of play, ya know? zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...........................

OK, all interesting comments....... eAi - I understand some of the gameplay problems that may occur with respawning, but at the very least players should be able to respawn from the start if they die. They can just crash around or try to catch up, either way it is a lot more fun the waiting for some slow sunday drivers to complete the LONG WAY AROUND race! No respawning at all was a bad idea and it only leads to one thing---- VOTING!!! Races rarely finish, because after half the players die, someone is likely to start a vote to change or restart the race, and since those dead players would rather be PLAYING then waiting, guess what happens eAi?........ The vote is passed almost everytime, and the players who were still racing are pissed!! Even if it is the destruction derby map, which ends quicker, players often vote once they die! And I am one of those noobs who will gladdly vote YES (if dead), cause waiting sucks, especially when the 2 last players are just hiding from each other. If I am a noob for hating the wait, then about 95 percent of the players are also noobs, as they are guilty of early voting too. Sure, it could be made so that voting takes a higher percentage to pass, but that is NOT the option I, and many others would want. I am sure I speak for many when I say--- Let us at least respawn from the starting point!!! It just sucks on those long maps when cars ram into you and flip you over due to laggy jitters, then you gota wait 10+ minutes twiddling your thumbs. Next issue----The turns. What is fun? Getting 10 players together in MTA vice city and having an unscripted, no checkpoint race from the docks to the ammunation. or-- Having a forced path laid out, with ugly checkpoint markers, and no choice at all in vehicles, with constant tight turns. I look forward to the first TRUE free roam mode for my racing needs. I would much rather race unscripted and uncontrolled thank you very much. Much how I'd rather have unscripted free for all derbys in the bloodring as opposed to the insainly boring last man standing junk where once you die, you are out for a damn long time. It was just great in MTAVC getting ambulances, fire trucks, and whatever sick minded players could fit into that damn bloodring, and having an unscripted nonstop crash fest! There were even cars that respawned in there in the DM mode (version 3.2 or whatever it was) good times.......... The single player races were not that fun in SA, and I hate to see how the races online play out in the same boring\tedious ways.... While I do enjoy most of the races online, the constant tight turns no doubt annoy a lot of players besides me and njr. I am not asking for straightaways nonstop, but for gamers sake- there is more tight turns then gentle turns you can safely speed through. Sure, it takes great skill to win a turn race like that, but is it fun? There is a broad range of tracks, and players can make thier own, but then again, the servers I have been playing (good servers) do not run new maps, and the vast majoriety of races are nowhere near as fun as what I would really like to do, IF there was a working free roam, which currently is broken (no respawn) And yes, when the most voted for, and loved track is not even a race track (d derby), I think that speaks volumes of what the mass really wants here. Having said all that, the race mode is still enjoyable, and the blue core is smoking hot!. It just really needs respawning, and new races (that good servers will actually run) If respawning is allowed in the next version, servers that have the respawn option set to OFF will be empty servers....... I said that before, and I am saying it again so you FANBOYS get it through your head that no respawing completely and utterly sucks, and I am not affraid to tell the developers that. I am not here to make friends, I am here to add my input which can hopefully influence the project in some posotive way in the future.. other things I'd love to see, but probably won't---- a monster truck car crush jump competition? a nascar stadium (outdoor)? a free for all large stunt park (outdoor) with loops, corkscrews, half pipes, you name it! trailor attachments for semi trucks (working online)

First off, in all the servers I have tried, non of them were running any custom maps. Will players need to download these maps before playing on a server that is running them? I kept up with front page news only, and admittedly, I did not know the race mode would not allow players to respawn. I DON'T CARE if that is something planned, or if it is something I should have known... The bottom line is WHY would they release this without the respawn option???!!?? Just lame in my opinion, and guarenteed to scare away a lot of players. Just a minor problem??? There are sooo many maps in which I end up waiting...... and waiting...... and waiting...... This is crap! Utter crap! I wana play already!!! I have been waiting since early summer to play this game online, only to spend most of my ingame time WAITING!!! raaawwrrrg!!! And that is what the majoriety will think, as they have not read the blogs either. They simply expect a stunt mode simular to the VC version, where yes you race, but each map allows respawns. How many people do you think, knew that there would be no respawning? A dozen? No doubt it pisses off, and dissapoints 99% of all the players who try this out after doing it for a few hours or days for some. In some maps like destruction derby, it is much more bearable, since races end quick, but even there, it would just be nice to have respawning and endless destruction. Planned or not, respawning SHOULD have been in here from the start, as it does hurt it bad to not have it. The servers that don't run respawning in the future (when the next version is released) will be very empty servers. 8 months??? I remember reading a year ago about how the blue core had been in developement for 11 months already? Sure, the SA part was done in 8, but the main blue core its'self has been in development for ages now Have I missed something here? I love what I am seeing from the blue engine, and I know the future looks very bright for MTA, but after hours of playing in which most of that time was spent waiting (cause I suck at racing) I am disspointed.

First of all, big congrats to the MTA team on finally getting this beast out. I know it had to have been a massive undertaking to bring us what we have today....... Having said that, I am a little dissapointed with what we do have here. First off, there is no real ROAM mode. Now I was not expecting to wonder around on foot, or have guns, but I was at least expecting to be able to drive freely across the world, in about any vehicle, die, and respawn.... All this with 32 other players doing likewise. That type of freedom would encourage players to come up with thier own races, and use any vehicles for any race. Maybe I wana race up the chiliad mountain in a monster truck, while a buddy races in a golf cart, another races in a Mr. Whoopie, ect, or maybe just everyone is freely crashing around doing outrageous stunts off the mountain peak, non of which is possible in the current release. When a player dies he has no choice but to wait for every other player to die, or for someone to win the race. Players can choose a handful of annoying races. I say annoying, because it seams the majoriety of tracks concentrate on many tight turns (why not more speed based, and stunt courses)? The nearly constant sudden 90 degree turns get annoying after a while, and I personally would like to see more straightaways, with dangerous shortcuts (jumps)... I am sure players will come up with some great tracks otherwise. Then you have the wonderful destruction derby track! This incredibly fun level, is baddly hurt by not having a free for all chaos mode! WHY? WHY? WHY- do players HAVE to wait until only 1 car is left standing before they can respawn???? Why was this released without the option to have players respawn at will? In my opinion (which I am sure you don't want to hear) the decision not to include a respawn option was a very bad choice. So, no respawning on any of the races, no true freeroam for at least cars, and no all out chaos like I was hoping for. I don't mean to piss on your fresh fire here MTA, I've been here for a loooong time, and waited anxiously for this release! From my point of view, certainly you can understand why I am a little bummed out? I mean come on!! In the air strike matches, where players have airborn dogfights, players who die early, can easily end up waiting 10+ minutes before they can respawn!! Just aweful!!! I want to play, not watch. Otherwise, the blue core is great. Very stable on my computer, and certainly a light year ahead of the competition in terms of syched cars. I am sure I'll play this everyso often to kill some time, while I anxiously await the real meat of this meat and potatos dinner. Thank you MTA team, and keep up the good (but not perfect) work. I know this will only get better with each new release. ((more destruction derby type of tracks please))

Wow, thats a choice idea! Big Mutha Truckers was a cool game Hell yeah! And driving those rigs up the mountain in the redneck section of SA with an attachment is my second most favorite thing to do.. My first is driving them down Now if only I could spawn a train up there and drive it off the edge.... hmmm By the way, doom 3 was a very scary game, and I died many times while playing through it. I feel just aweful after completing it, and the MTA team can make ME feel better by releasing MTA SA sometime in the next 48 hours. COMON!! I need my fix! I want MTA SA soo bad that when I am at work I see ATM machines reflected into windows to read MTA!!!! IT IS dRIVING ME MAD!!!

LOL! MTA SA, sounds great! I am dieing for stability here, and it is already wednesday! The time for releasing MTA SA at a convienient time for me is over. I shall now suffer knowing that I will never again have such a perfect moment as I did today, ooooooohh the wasted hours...... Now when it is released I will only have 8 hours max at any one time to devote to it It is just not fair. See yesterday I could have played for 10! Instead I had to play doom 3 all day, waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh I'll forgive the MTA team for not releasing MTA SA for me yesterday, but ONLY if in the first release, will we be able to get semi trucks WITH attached trailors! I really wana race em! Kinda like that BIG MUTHA TRUCKERS game

ignore question #2, I found the answer already, sorry for asking.

Hello everyone, been a long time.... I have been playing GTAT (SA multiplayer mod) but quit after a server crash deleted files that were needed to play (sooooo unstable in it's alpha state) I am ready for something a bit more........ Ready.... And looking at the latest MTA SA videos, I feel that this mod is about ready! Good job to the MTA team , I have to admit that MTA SA is shaping up to be the dominate SA multiplayer mod, all thanks to the excellent blue core. 1-- I know I could do a search blah blah blah, but spare me the time of searching for outdated news..... What is the current (estimated) max player count? Any rough ideas? I won't be mad if it is low, or high 2-- Will the first release of SA MTA have a mode that just lets us drive freely about the entire SA world unrestricted? 3-- And the most important question--- Will the first release of SA blue, crash constantly like,,,, well, that other mod does..... Or will it be stable enough to play for more then 5 minutes at a time? I'll understand if this one gets locked.... If locked, I am sure you'll say something like--- "we don't want a flame war between MTA and GTAT blah blah blah" but hey dudes! I am not here to do that! GTAT has my support, as they have a good thing going, it just needs a lot of work yet is all I want them to keep working hard on it, as there is nothing wrong with variety and competition. It is only in ((MY)) opinion, that MTA is going to dominate. PS.=== If you could release MTA SA next tuesday at around 3:30 PM, just after I wake up, that would be really great for me. ..... Ok,,, I am gona start running now, before you frag my a$$

Ok, so we just sit here now....... Checking every day..... With nothing new to say...... Bored silly.... Now I really appreciate the MTA team, you guys are legends. So I won't bother you with more release questions. And you did say PLEASE, so I guess I can't be offended but IMO, it does suck that we have no idea, no hope, no guess even as to when we MIGHT be playing SA online. I hate delays as much as everyone else, but there is this feeling looming over this place.... IT feels like nothing is going on.... ya know what I mean? Out of thin air? BAH! Who hasn't heard of MTA by now? And who won't be thinking of it when they look at the GTA SA box in stores? Yeah there are many other great reasons to own the PC version over the consols, but the #1 reason for many is the multiplayer. Ok, so I did exaggerate a bit, but hell you know what I mean. I guess in my moment of extreme boredom, I will have to check out that other SA MP thing you mentioned, but I have my doubts.

I would certainly hope not! And eAi, if you refuse to answer the initial question, could you answer this? When do you guys "HOPE" to release MTA for San Andreas? I know things often don't go as planned, but what is the general time frame? End of summer? Fall? Winter? 2006? Can you at least give us that much? I just hope you fellows realize that the entire GTA PC community is looking to YOU, in hopes they will play SA online this year. You will be hearing that questing a lot, AND WHEN IGN PC, or GAMESPOT, or PC GAMER ect, asks you that same question are you just going to say== PLEASE DON'T ASK US ABOUT ANY RELEASE DATES?!!! Could you name but one person who is looking to buy GTA SA for the PC, that does not have the idea of MTA in thier minds? CAN YOU? It is a main reason to buy it over the PS2 and XBOX versions. So much more possibilities over the past 2 games. A much larger world. A diverse world ripe for the taking of online play. If you absoluty can not give us a release date, not even a HOPE release date, fine. I just wanted to wake you guys up, to get you off your a$$es, and inspire you to WORK like the community slaves that you are Everyone, get out your whips. The target-- Sector 3 of the a$$ quadrent.

Also irrelevant but entertaining, is the idea of having power EJECTION seats in SA...... So if you get angry at one of your team members riding in yer car, you could eject him out at high speeds and watch him splat into a building or something

fav GTA 3 car--- Banshee fav VC car------- Ice Cream truck fav SA car------- Semi Truck with attached trailor!!! My fav plane of the 3 games is the WW2 fighter in san andreas..... The harrier fighter jet is awesome, but ya just can't beat a classic WW2 plane The semi truck in SA can have a few different trailor attachments. My fav attach would be the huge cylinder tank. Trying to race with them will be awesome online, cause if you turn too sharp you will loose your attachment (good physics). The jolly ice cream truck totally dominated everyone in the bloodring demo derbys we used to play in MTA .3 DM so it gets my vote in VC. Besides, that music is as sweet as the treat found inside. The banshee breaks as fast as it moves, so it scores highest with me in GTA 3. I just love busting into the car dealership and stealing a banshee! yeeehaaaaa!

NO! There is always 2..... A master..... And an apprentice....... Never more..... Never less....... So which one is he? Personally my fav non glitch is that one where you run forward, and tap sidestep left, then right, then left, then right, ect...... And do this quickly! oh man, it is soo awesome.... Your guy does like,,,,, some sort of ret#arded dance ur something. Everyone get into the game and try this with me NOW!