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<headfonez> wha, wojj?
<Iggy248> m00
<Marcel> im all a tingle
<headfonez> he must have never left the room
<headfonez> anyway
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<Iggy248> then just tell us
<Marcel> well lets hear it
<headfonez> well it goes a little like this
<Iggy248> well
<headfonez> you know how there are 3 islands...
<Iggy248> indeed
<Marcel> yes
<headfonez> 3 islands
<headfonez> 3 flags
<headfonez> ok, these islands represent nations
<headfonez> each island has a flag
<headfonez> the objective of the game is to capture the flag of each island
<Iggy248> interesting
<headfonez> now about the three islands.....
<headfonez> if you notice there is an island on the east, an island on the west, and a central island.
<Marcel> correct
<headfonez> the name of these islands are "East Vice" (the island to the east) and "West Vice" (the island to the west)
<headfonez> the central islands (Prawn Island and Starfish Island) both make up the "central islands" but their is no name for the "central islands" untill it is named
<headfonez> ill explain why later
<Marcel> ok
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> like i said before there is "East Vice" and "West Vice"
<headfonez> and the citizens of those nations are called "Eastians" (citizens of East Vice) and "Westians" (Citizens of West Vice)
<headfonez> on start up, you select which "nationallity" youre are
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> you have to capture both opposing flags in order to win
<headfonez> so say youre from East Vice, you have to capture the Westian and central islands' flags
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> heres where things go
<headfonez> "Chapter 2"
<headfonez> heh
<headfonez> Government
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> the thing is this
<headfonez> each nation has their own government.....except for the central islands
<headfonez> East and West Vice all have a "President", a "Secretary of Defense", and "Sherrif"
<Iggy248> Is that sort of a handicap for the central island?
<headfonez> think of East and West Vice as contemporary countries
<headfonez> and the central island as a 3rd world country
<headfonez> the only form of leadership for the central island is a dictatorship....1 leader
<Iggy248> How many players to a team?
<headfonez> well
<headfonez> you can have as many players on any team as you want
<headfonez> or you can just play by yourself
<headfonez> with 1 other person
<headfonez> it doesnt matter
<headfonez> because
<headfonez> the main objective is of course to "capture the other two flags"
<Iggy248> ok
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> grab a drink?
<headfonez> thirsty hungry...
<headfonez> uh
<headfonez> if yah are den go do that
<headfonez> otherwise meh continue
<headfonez> ok
<headfonez> well, ill continue
<Iggy248> lol
<headfonez> "Chapter 3" what the government does
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> as i said before, East and West vice has a President, a Sherrif, and a Secretary of Defense
<headfonez> The president has to 'order' over everyone in his country, the Sherrif has to govern the cops, and the Sec of Defense is over the active Military
<headfonez> these three positions are elected officials
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> and these elections occur after every game 24 hours, well which is of course 24 minutes
<headfonez> to vote for someone you'd type for example \vote 1 Iggy248
<Iggy248> mmmkay
<headfonez> that would be voting iggy (you) for president
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> \vote 2 Marcel would be voting him for Sherrif, etc
<headfonez> ne way
<headfonez> there is another, simpler way to become president of course
<headfonez> that is to shoot the guy who's currently the prez
<headfonez> and collect his
<Iggy248> lol
<headfonez> "presidental orb" that is left at his coordinates of death
<headfonez> once your the new pres, you have 24 game hourse until your next election (that is if you dong get assasinated first)
<headfonez> btw you can vote for yourself, but you cannot vote more than once
<headfonez> and
<Iggy248> you mean once per position?
<headfonez> yeah
<headfonez> good catch
<headfonez> eligebale people for the presidency are civilians....(non military and cop personnel)
<headfonez> and eligle people for sec of state or sherrif include both military and cops for either positions
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> that takes care of elections
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> heres how it all works
<headfonez> sigh ..............
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> the President, Sec of State, and Sherrif can make ceartin laws
<headfonez> these laws are laws that are automatically enforced if their turned on
<Iggy248> Cant he laws only be enforced apon there corrisponding troups?
<headfonez> yes they can. you can make a law for just military if youre the sec of defense or a law for just police if youre the sherrif
an example of a law is
<headfonez> for example, if the Sherrif wants the national speed limit to be 80km per hour... then anyone that drives faster than that is automatically punished
<Iggy248> *alirght
<headfonez> if the penality is death (which is also determined by the leader who made the law) then they are automatically killed
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> before you get power tripping
<headfonez> ...
<headfonez> here is the clench
<headfonez> the leaders can make any law they want
<headfonez> but
<headfonez> the punishment they deliver depends on how much money they have available
<headfonez> when i say money,
<headfonez> im not talking about the blue numbers at the top right
<headfonez> "Money" is a literal package located at a bank or a ceartin spot
<Iggy248> right
<headfonez> each nation starts out with say 5 packages
<headfonez> the only people who can move the money are thieves and the president
<headfonez> thieves can steal it
<headfonez> like
<headfonez> walk up to it
<headfonez> but
<headfonez> *and
<headfonez> when they have it, they run around with it
<headfonez> and the goverment no longer has that "package" of money
<Iggy248> k
<headfonez> no money = no power to punish or enforce ceartain laws
<headfonez> you see?
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> if you want to ban all Eastians, the westian president types \ban Eastians
<headfonez> well \ban Eastians punish 3
<Iggy248> But it would take away money?
<headfonez> that would mean all Eastians that try to enter recieve punishment 3
<headfonez> which would likely be the death penalty
<headfonez> no
<Iggy248> ok
<headfonez> it doesnt take the money away
<headfonez> it just uses that money for that particular law
<headfonez> remove the law, and you have your money back
<headfonez> so
<headfonez> of course
<headfonez> its all in how its distributed
<headfonez> because
<headfonez> the sherrif may need money for his laws
<headfonez> so you can click that off for a while and let the sherrif use it to enforce his stuff
<headfonez> it = the money you were using to enforce that law
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> got it?
<headfonez> ok
<headfonez> so theieves can steal the money
<headfonez> ( you have to choose to be a thief)
<headfonez> or
<headfonez> the president can transfer his national money to another national bank
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> typing \money 3 West Vice
<headfonez> that would transfer 3 packs to West Vice in their bank
<headfonez> you know
<headfonez> so
<headfonez> bank security is important
<Iggy248> couldnt you consider being able to drive the security van and have the money in there when you transfer banks?
<headfonez> well
<Iggy248> Or wont the banks be actually visable
<headfonez> yeah
<headfonez> well
<headfonez> yes they will be visible
<Iggy248> ok
<headfonez> (im thinkin about that idea you just said)
<headfonez> you mean
<headfonez> like a police officer or something transfers money?
<headfonez> ok
<headfonez> its considered
<Iggy248> heh
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> ok
<Iggy248> What is your job on the team? SCM coder?
<headfonez> gameplay programmer
<headfonez> yah
<headfonez> yes
<headfonez> uh
<headfonez> ok
<headfonez> uh
<headfonez> since
<headfonez> you listened thus far, im not gonna waste anymore of your time
<Iggy248> lol
<headfonez> im just gonna type it out
<headfonez> and
<headfonez> let you read it
<Iggy248> Sure you dont have anything else you wanna say
<Iggy248> ok
<headfonez> "Chapter 11" The Game
<headfonez> yiant gotta respond
<headfonez> man
<headfonez> go surf some porn uh... no
<headfonez> dont do that
<headfonez> uh
<headfonez> get a drink ah sometin yah
<headfonez> "Chapter 11" The Game
<headfonez> Eastians and Westians have their own nations cars
<headfonez> there are Eastian Cars (lets say red) and Westian Cars (lets say green)
<headfonez> now
<Iggy248> Do you plan to have all the cars they use one certain color?
<headfonez> more than likely yes
<headfonez> if the Eastian President has banned all Westians, the only way a Westian can enter the country w/out punishment is..
<headfonez> to drive a Eastian car in
<Iggy248> ok I was wondering how they would
<headfonez> heh
<headfonez> and there are 'foriegn' cars in each nation
<headfonez> so
<headfonez> it shouldnt be a big problem
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> there is no Central islands cars
<headfonez> because they have no goverment
<Iggy248> Do you plan to give the central islands some handicaps due to there small size?
<headfonez> if your nation bans you and the other nation does not grant you citizenship...
<headfonez> youre automaticaly sent to live in the central islands.
<headfonez> they have no handicapp
<headfonez> becuase
<headfonez> theoretically,
<headfonez> the central islands are poor (they start out with 1 money pkg)
<headfonez> and
<headfonez> they are the habitaion of people who are not accepted in either country
<headfonez> your considered to be liken unto an 'odd-ball' if you live in those central islands
<Iggy248> k
<headfonez> or
<headfonez> you can just choose to be a strait up person from there at start up selection
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> they also dont have elections
<headfonez> they just have 1 president (dictator)
<headfonez> theyll probably have to sneak in other countries using the 'foriegn' cars
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> and
<headfonez> they have a few enforcable laws
<headfonez> one important one is the banning law, which would be cool because then if both islands are banned from the center,
<headfonez> theyll have to go around through heli or boat
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> because cause there's no central car
<headfonez> and
<headfonez> btw
<headfonez> helis, boats all have nationality also
<headfonez> so
<headfonez> same rules apply to them
<headfonez> you cant land in the country with out punishment if youre banned
<Marcel> are you planning this for mta, or another gta mod?
<headfonez> mta of course
<headfonez> the central island does not have a name
<headfonez> the dictator names it
<headfonez> uh
<headfonez> got to make a small business call
<headfonez> well really its big
<Iggy248> ok
<headfonez> aaahhh [completed the call]
<headfonez> you still there (you refereing to anyone)
<Iggy248> Yes
<headfonez> great
<headfonez> -----------Chapter uh 6 i guesssz -----
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> you know how to sneak in
<headfonez> you now how to steal
<headfonez> you know how tospend
<headfonez> but
<headfonez> do you know how to spy????
<headfonez> (my favorite part)
<headfonez> of the game
<headfonez> is
<headfonez> the National Spy
<Iggy248> hur
<headfonez> there can be a total of 2 National Spies per nation
<Iggy248> i just knocked my pc tower over
<Iggy248> ....im still here
<headfonez> haha
<headfonez> sorry
<headfonez> heh
<Iggy248> lol
<headfonez> heh
<headfonez> uh
<headfonez> wel
<headfonez> anyway
<headfonez> now see the spy is the guy
<headfonez> who can see everything on radar
<headfonez> from money to the flags
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> to every body in the game
<headfonez> the spy
<headfonez> is also the only guy who can enter a country
<headfonez> and apear to be a native of that land
<headfonez> so
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> so peeps wont suspect
<headfonez> he can easily capture the flag
<headfonez> cause he can see it on screen
<headfonez> but
<headfonez> he starts out with only a pistol with low ammo
<headfonez> and
<headfonez> can
<headfonez> only ride
<headfonez> in cars, cannot drive
<headfonez> so him needs dem help
<headfonez> *he
<headfonez> so he needs the help of his 'team'
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> the president selects the spies
<Iggy248> ok
<headfonez> \spy1 Marcel
<headfonez> he becomes a national spy
<headfonez> spy1 is different from spy2
<headfonez> because
<headfonez> if you kill spy2 he leaves his orb and you can beceome the national spy (anyone of that country)
<headfonez> but
<headfonez> spy1 doesnt leave an orb
<Iggy248> ok
<headfonez> he remains spy untill forever or unless the pres reappoints
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> thats it for the spy
<headfonez> ----Chapter 7, that other important dude
<headfonez> The president also
<headfonez> wait
<Iggy248> k
<headfonez> the Secretary of Defense
<headfonez> him and 1 other person he appoints
<headfonez> can move the nations flag
<headfonez> like to a nother location
<headfonez> but
<headfonez> theieves can steal it
<headfonez> but
<headfonez> they dont see it [the flag] on radar
<headfonez> unless someone is walking with it
<headfonez> now
<Iggy248> Can the flag be placed at ANY location or at say....6 differnt stations that are have already been selected by you (headfonez) at differnt points of the island?
<headfonez> yes
<headfonez> anywhere
<headfonez> the sec of defense can appoint 1 other person to be a flag mover, but he must be in the military
<headfonez> if im the Sec of Defense, typing " \cflag Iggy248 " would allow you to carry the flag
<Iggy248> ok
<headfonez> and that flag mover DOES NOT leave an position orb
<headfonez> --------the FBI agent------
<headfonez> the FBI agent, which is appointed by the police does something simple
<headfonez> if he gets close or (button press near range)
<headfonez> he
<headfonez> places a camera on you, youre bugged
<headfonez> but
<headfonez> yeah
<headfonez> peeps of your island can now see where people are by spectating
<Iggy248> well the certain person whos bugged
<Iggy248> they can only spectate him
<Iggy248> right?
<headfonez> yeah
<headfonez> Also, you can put cameras on the money and the flag
<headfonez> and the presidental orb, secretary of defense orb, and any other orb
<Iggy248> cool idea
<headfonez> so
<headfonez> whoever is president you can see it by spectating if its bugged
<headfonez> whoever has the flag you can see it by spectating if its bugged
<headfonez> etc
<headfonez> but you have to get to it first
<headfonez> and
<headfonez> well
<headfonez> if you bug once, its bugged forever
<headfonez> so thats just for start up
<headfonez> but
<headfonez> for people to view it
<headfonez> you need money
<headfonez> say 1 or 2 packs
<Iggy248> ok
<headfonez> you can have up to 3 FBI agents per country
<headfonez> uh
<headfonez> .....
<headfonez> 1 more pos
<Iggy248> ok
<headfonez> national drivers
<headfonez> anyone can be one
<headfonez> these are people who can handle any car
<headfonez> any time
<headfonez> so you can drive the prez around in his bullet proof limo
<headfonez> or
<Iggy248> cool
<headfonez> drive the securi van for a high speed get away
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> bullet proof = a lot of armor
<headfonez> but destrucatble
<Iggy248> yeh
<headfonez> hrm
<headfonez> with a confused look on my face, i do believe thats it
<headfonez> now
<headfonez> of course there are laws that i didnt explain
<headfonez> and punishments i didnt explain
<headfonez> but
<headfonez> oh 1 importnt tech thing
<Iggy248> ok
<headfonez> when a new player joins or restarts game
<headfonez> all of the cars are synched according to where they are
<headfonez> data of the car locs is saved in the host, and their transfered to the new joiner
<headfonez> so
<Iggy248> unlike how only the ones that are occupied are syched currently?
<headfonez> you cant join a game and start jacking cars that no one else saw
<headfonez> yeah
<Iggy248> ok
<headfonez> what do you think
<Iggy248> goood
<Iggy248> looks like you spent alot of time thinking things over
<Iggy248> correct?
<headfonez> yeahheh
<headfonez> so
<headfonez> but yeah
<headfonez> thanks
-----Note: some of the chat was modified for clairty of concept and grammar purposes-----
So what do you guys think? ITs basicaly a 3 team capture the flag with hyper elements of goverment control. Cops and Robbers have their haven here as they try and steal money from the national banks. Dont want to fit in? Be a stowaway on the central islands. Strategists and Masterminds can work their brains for developing strategies to capture the flag. You can also have national competitions like racing or stunting, or competitions between islands. Get voted into an office. Wanna be likeable?, "run" for President, and by that i mean Run to kill the dude whos carrying the Presidental Orb. This is combining many elemnts into one game, without sacrificing any of the MTA action we crave. Any comments or suggestions? Please Post!
thanks for reading
--Headfonez
